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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[This phone starts fires on purpose]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Until now, most mobile phone companies have worked to ensure their phones won’t start fires. (Occasional Samsung devices excepted, of course.) But this week at Mobile World Congress, we found a company that dared to go in a different direction. Oukitel’s WP63 rugged smartphone includes a built-in fire starter, and this is what it looks [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="has-text-align-none">Until now, most mobile phone companies have worked to ensure their phones won’t start fires. (Occasional <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/22/14353686/samsung-galaxy-note-7-recall-reason-report">Samsung devices excepted</a>, of course.) But this week at Mobile World Congress, we found a company that dared to go in a different direction. Oukitel’s WP63 rugged smartphone includes a built-in fire starter, and this is what it looks like:</p>
<img src="https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/03/DSC02836_processed.jpg?quality=90&#038;strip=all&#038;crop=0,0,100,100" alt="" title="" data-has-syndication-rights="1" data-caption="Turn on phone. Push button. Fires. | Allison Johnson / The Verge" data-portal-copyright="Allison Johnson / The Verge" />
<p class="has-text-align-none">On <a href="https://pod.link/vergecast">this episode of <em>The Vergecast</em></a>, <em>The Verge</em>’s <a href="https://www.theverge.com/authors/dominic-preston">Dominic Preston</a> joins Nilay to explain the existence of this particular mobile device, as well as wrap up all the weird and wonderful gadgets <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/882980/mwc-2026-news-phones-gadgets-announcements">he and the team saw at MWC.</a> There was also a “robot phone” <a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/889023/honor-robot-phone-gimbal-stabilization-mwc" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/889023/honor-robot-phone-gimbal-stabilization-mwc">that dances to</a> (and so far, only to) “Believer” by Imagine Dragons.</p>

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<p class="has-text-align-none">Then, <em>The Verge</em>’s <a href="https://www.theverge.com/authors/sean-hollister">Sean Hollister</a> helps us make sense of Google and Epic&#8217;s enemies-to-lovers saga. The <a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/889252/google-app-store-fee-reduction-20-percent-epic-v-google" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.theverge.com/policy/889252/google-app-store-fee-reduction-20-percent-epic-v-google">end of 30 percent app store fees</a>, the <a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/866140/epic-google-fortnite-android-unreal-deal-antitrust-settlement" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.theverge.com/policy/866140/epic-google-fortnite-android-unreal-deal-antitrust-settlement">secret $800 million deal</a>, a <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/889595/tim-sweeney-signed-away-his-right-to-criticize-google-until-2032" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.theverge.com/news/889595/tim-sweeney-signed-away-his-right-to-criticize-google-until-2032">non-disparagement agreement</a>, and <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/889526/epic-games-google-deal-metaverse-apps" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.theverge.com/tech/889526/epic-games-google-deal-metaverse-apps">something about the metaverse</a>.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But before all that, we share a rare moment of unfiltered gadget joy. Nilay just had “the single most incredible experience I&#8217;ve ever had watching a movie in my house, in my entire life,” thanks to the <a href="https://www.kaleidescape.com/mini-terra-prime-movie-server/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.kaleidescape.com/mini-terra-prime-movie-server/">Kaleidescape 8TB solid-state server</a>. Scenes of rain or confetti have never looked better. This is all it takes to make Nilay happy.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In the lightning round: Audience metrics indicate <em>Verge</em> readers are more interested in <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/885941/kobo-wireless-bluetooth-remote-page-turn-clara-libra-sage-elipsa">the Kobo Remote</a> than most of <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/888352/apple-march-2026-event-experience-announcements-iphone-macbook-ipad" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.theverge.com/tech/888352/apple-march-2026-event-experience-announcements-iphone-macbook-ipad">Apple’s new product announcements</a>, Dom&#8217;s charging his <a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/888037/i-charge-my-phone-on-a-racing-car-do-you" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">phone on a li’l racing car</a>, and Sean’s on the plastic brick beat with <a href="https://onecleardrop.com/products/soft-plastic-compactor-spc-preorder">Clear Drop’s Soft Plastic Compactor</a> and disappointment about <a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/886014/lego-smart-brick-star-wars-set-price-availability-release-date-buy" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/886014/lego-smart-brick-star-wars-set-price-availability-release-date-buy">the Lego smart brick’s debut playsets</a>. Plus, <a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/889852/fcc-chair-brendan-carr-is-pushing-for-us-based-call-centers" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.theverge.com/policy/889852/fcc-chair-brendan-carr-is-pushing-for-us-based-call-centers">Brendan Carr is still a dummy</a>.</p>

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<p class="has-text-align-none">If you want to know more about everything we discuss in this episode, here are some links to get you started, first on MWC:</p>

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<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/882992/mobile-world-congress-mwc-2026-smartphones-laptops-headphones">The best mobile tech announced at MWC 2026 so far</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/889023/honor-robot-phone-gimbal-stabilization-mwc">Honor’s Robot Phone is a bad robot, an interesting camera, and maybe your friend</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/886131/xiaomi-leica-leitzphone-17-ultra-review">Xiaomi’s Leica Leitzphone mostly earns the name</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/887250/vivo-x300-ultra-global-launch-telephoto-camera-cage">Here’s the upgrade to my favorite phone camera of last year</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/883781/tecno-is-doing-a-modular-phone-again">Tecno is doing a modular phone (again)</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/888101/unihertz-titan-2-elite-qwerty-keyboard">Unihertz’s new QWERTY phone is even more like a Blackberry</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/886814/lenovo-thinkbook-modular-ai-pc-concept-mwc-2026-specs">Lenovo made a Framework-like laptop with modular ports — and a second screen</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/885336/lenovo-mechanical-keyboard-angry-miao-giant-glowing-knob">This $299 mechanical keyboard has a giant glowing knob</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/886848/lenovo-legion-go-fold-concept-windows-foldable-pc-gaming-handheld">This Windows gaming handheld has a screen that folds in half</a></li>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">And on Google / Epic:</p>

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<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/889252/google-app-store-fee-reduction-20-percent-epic-v-google">Google isn’t waiting for a settlement — the 30 percent Android app store fee is dead</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/889538/google-apps-experience-games-level-up-program">Here’s how Google describes its fee-reducing Apps Experience and Games Level Up programs</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/889526/epic-games-google-deal-metaverse-apps">Epic and Google have signed a special deal for a new class of ‘metaverse’ apps</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/889595/tim-sweeney-signed-away-his-right-to-criticize-google-until-2032">Tim Sweeney signed away his right to criticize Google until 2032</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/games/889286/fortnite-is-returning-to-google-play-globally"><em>Fortnite</em> is returning to Google Play globally</a></li>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">And in the lightning round:</p>

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<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/889852/fcc-chair-brendan-carr-is-pushing-for-us-based-call-centers">FCC Chair Brendan Carr is pushing for US-based call centers</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/883098/openais-stargate-struggles"></a><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/885941/kobo-wireless-bluetooth-remote-page-turn-clara-libra-sage-elipsa">I’m not ashamed to admit the Kobo Remote is the best gadget I’ve bought this year</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/889720/live-nation-ticketmaster-trial-doj-barclays-center-threats">Did Live Nation punish a venue by taking Billie Eilish away?</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/883769/anthropic-claude-conscious-alive-moral-patient-constitution"></a><a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/888037/i-charge-my-phone-on-a-racing-car-do-you">I charge my phone on a racing car. Do you?</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/882077/openai-chatgpt-smart-speaker-camera-glasses-lamp"></a><a href="https://www.theverge.com/science/887063/clear-drop-review-soft-plastic-compactor-recycling-downcycling">Investigating the 61-pound machine that eats plastic and spits out bricks</a></li>



<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/games/889701/trump-white-house-call-of-duty-footage-iran">A new video from the White House mixes Call of Duty footage with actual video of Iran strikes</a></li>
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