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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Is Twitter doomed?]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[On Sunday night, following reports by our sister publication Recode, Twitter confirmed that several of its top executives were leaving the company. The list included Kevin Weil, its fifth head of product since 2009; Jason Toff, who ran Vine; and vice presidents in charge of engineering and human resources. It&#8217;s an ugly list of departures [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p><em>On Sunday night, following </em><a href="http://recode.net/2016/01/24/big-exec-departures-at-twitter-media-head-stanton-and-product-head-weil-leaving/"><em>reports by our sister publication </em>Recode</a><em>, Twitter confirmed that several of its top executives were leaving the company. The list included Kevin Weil, its fifth head of product since 2009; </em><a href="http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/25/10825638/vine-jason-toff-twitter-exodus">Jason Toff, who ran Vine</a><em>; and vice presidents in charge of engineering and human resources. It&rsquo;s an ugly list of departures for a company that has seen its user growth stall and its stock price drop 55 percent over the past year. And it calls into question CEO Jack Dorsey&rsquo;s efforts to stabilize a company that was in turmoil for much of 2015. </em>The Verge<em>&rsquo;s Nilay Patel and Casey Newton recently sat down in a Google Doc to tackle a question no one in the media has ever dared to ask: is Twitter doomed?</em></p><!-- extended entry --><hr class="widget_boundry_marker hidden page_break">
<p><strong>Nilay Patel</strong>: So I think Twitter has a deep existential problem, which is that no one knows what Twitter is for, or how people should use it. That sense of gleeful anarchy propelled the service in the early days, when a small group of power users made and remade norms and etiquette on a near-constant basis, but now it&rsquo;s just a mess.</p>
<p><q class="center">Why should anyone use Twitter right now?</q></p>
<p>It&rsquo;s pretty normal for companies to have some management turnover after a leadership change, so all these VPs leaving isn&rsquo;t necessarily a bad thing &mdash; but the fact that Jack Dorsey hasn&rsquo;t articulated a coherent vision for why anyone should touch the Twitter icon on their phone instead of the Facebook icon is the real problem. Why should anyone use Twitter right now?</p>

<p><strong>Casey Newton</strong>: Twitter remains the best answer to the question: what&rsquo;s going on right now? And it&rsquo;s a pretty good answer to the question: what are people <em>saying</em> about what&rsquo;s going on right now? That&rsquo;s one reason that Twitter completely replaced a television showing CNN on most journalists&rsquo; desks over the past few years. And at 320 million monthly users, it&rsquo;s not just for the media that Twitter replaced CNN. Which is one reason it&#8217;s making more money now than ever: <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2016-01-25/twitter-can-respond-to-naysayers-by-pointing-to-sales-growth">Twitter ranks number two in revenue growth</a> for tech companies with at least $2 billion in sales. And it has $3.5 billion in cash sitting in the bank.</p>

<p>Anyway, it strikes me that first-time Instagram users face most of the same supposed problems that Twitter users do. They have to seek out accounts to follow, master quirks like @ mentions and hashtags, and &mdash; by the way! &mdash; learn a suite of elaborate photo editing tools. And yet Instagram has more than 400 million active users and <a href="http://fortune.com/2016/01/25/instagram-3-billion-business-this-year/">could bring in $3 billion this year</a>. So where exactly did Twitter go wrong?</p>

<p><strong>Nilay</strong>: So I have this theory about parties: you know you&rsquo;ve thrown a good one if there&rsquo;s someone there who doesn&rsquo;t like you. It means your party is too important to ignore.</p>
<p><q class="left">Cocktail parties are not a sustainable business model</q></p>
<p>That was Twitter at its peak: a cocktail party that everyone was at, and drive-by snark at rivals and strangers just added to the excitement of the place. The problem, sadly, is that &#8220;media-insidery cocktail parties&#8221; is not a scalable business model. Twitter grew so fast that suddenly the party got overwhelmed with people who don&rsquo;t seem to like anyone, and it&rsquo;s never taken the time to build tools to preserve even basic civility.</p>

<p>Add in the fact that the tools power users want &mdash; a better Tweetdeck! &mdash; have nothing to do with the problems of the masses &mdash; a better login experience! &mdash; and the misalignment between what Twitter needed to scale and the needs of the people who actually make all the content just got deeper and deeper. Instagram doesn&rsquo;t have that problem; everyone just uses it the same way.</p>

<p>And while sales and cash are great, they basically just make Twitter a takeover target while user growth continues to flatline and the stock keeps falling. The company needs to make moves fast if it wants to be anything other than the next thing Yahoo somehow destroys.</p>
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<p><strong>Casey</strong>: Drive-by snark at rivals is actually going to be the theme of my birthday party this year. Hope you will attend!</p>

<p>So Twitter turned out to be many things to many people, and wrangling them all proved incredibly difficult. More difficult than, say, telling the world to capture their brunch in a square frame. That&rsquo;s fair. So where does Twitter go from here?</p>

<p>We actually know, to some extent. We know they&rsquo;re going to let us post ultra-long tweets of up to 10,000 characters. And we know that they&rsquo;re going to offer a Facebook-style, algorithmic timeline that tries to rank tweets by importance. If you were running Twitter, can we agree that those are literally the last things you would do?</p>

<p><strong>Nilay</strong>: It&rsquo;s always felt like simply turning into Facebook has been the biggest idea Twitter has stubbornly refused to engage with, hasn&rsquo;t it? Twitter is the service we all want to love, but Facebook is the company that got successful by shamelessly building or buying products people actually want. If the biggest vision issue at Twitter is character limit, the battle&rsquo;s already lost.</p>

<p>Twitter&rsquo;s biggest value is actually that unfiltered firehose of a timeline. I&rsquo;d embrace it, and the tension it causes: build one set of apps that let power users put great stuff in the timeline, and another that let regular users find that stuff way more easily. Even that might not work, though.</p>

<p>Or I&rsquo;d just hire you and tell you to figure it out. What would you do?</p>
<p><q class="right">Borrowing another idea from Facebook</q></p>
<p><strong>Casey</strong>: Get fired in under a year, if history is any guide! In the meantime, I&rsquo;d borrow a different idea from Facebook &mdash; its Creative Labs division. In its relatively short life, Creative Labs was a small part of the company that churned out a number of big ideas. Most notable were Paper, a radical rethinking of Facebook for mobile devices, and Moments, which is now its <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/14/10115516/facebook-moments-required-mobile-photo-uploads">default photo-syncing solution</a>.</p>

<p>There were also a lot of flops along the way, several of which were just bad clones of Snapchat features. What I liked about Creative Labs was that it allowed Facebook to constantly rethink its approach to sharing and social networking. It took a dozen shots to find two that worked. I&rsquo;d love to see Twitter take a similar approach, not unlike the one you suggest: build a series of apps that deliver Twitter in interesting new ways. See which gain traction. Incorporate big wins back into the flagship app.</p>

<p>Alternatively, Twitter could simply have allowed its once-thriving developer ecosystem to continue experimenting with new designs and features <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/6/3295059/twitter-api-v1-1-release">instead of crippling its API in 2012</a>. But the company has only $3.5 billion in cash on hand &mdash; not nearly enough to develop a working time machine.</p>

<p>The company&rsquo;s best path forward may be the one floated by pseudonymous Silicon Valley gadfly Startup L. Jackson: use Twitter&rsquo;s 300 million or so core users to <a href="http://startupljackson.com/post/128504446315/twitters-product-is-fucking-fine">bootstrap a network of related but different apps</a>, eventually amassing Facebook-like scale in the aggregate. Vine and Periscope have been hits; Twitter ought to pick up (or homebrew) a few more.</p>
<p><q class="center">Should Twitter put out an iPod?</q></p>
<p>We&rsquo;re coming dangerously close to 10,000 characters here. Any parting thoughts?</p>

<p><strong>Nilay</strong>: Jack Dorsey wants to emulate Steve Jobs, so maybe Twitter should just put out an iPod? It&rsquo;s basically as good as any other idea we&rsquo;ve had.</p>

<p><strong>Casey</strong>: It holds more than 10,000 tweets!</p>

<p><strong>Nilay</strong>: Seriously though: if Dorsey wants his Jobs moment, the thing to do is articulate a real vision for Twitter. Who is it for? How should we use it? It hasn&rsquo;t happened yet, and the clock seems to be ticking.</p>

<p><strong>Casey</strong>: Totally unrelated, but follow us on Snapchat. Please RT!!</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Why is the media so afraid of Facebook?]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[This year, in lieu of the traditional Best Of Lists, we thought it would be fun to throw our editors and writers into a draft together and have a conversation. Here are Nilay Patel and Casey Newton discussing the hopes and many anxieties felt by the media as their industry becomes increasingly reliant on platforms. [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p><em>This year, in lieu of the traditional Best Of Lists, we thought it would be fun to throw our editors and writers into a draft together and have a conversation. Here are Nilay Patel and Casey Newton discussing the hopes and many anxieties felt by the media as their industry becomes increasingly reliant on platforms. This year we learned that everyone in media is afraid of Facebook, and Snapchat is still trying to grow up. How do we pay for media? How is it distributed? What is a media brand?</em></p>

<p><strong>Casey Newton:</strong> By almost any measure, Facebook had an impressive year. Its revenue was up more than 40 percent in the last quarter, its stock price is a third higher than it was a year ago, and it dominates our attention on mobile and desktop devices. <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/4/9671382/facebook-q3-third-quarter-2015-earnings-1-billion-active-users">More than a billion people are now using Facebook every day</a>. And even as it dominates the present, it&rsquo;s made some prescient-looking bets on the future &mdash; particularly on messaging apps (WhatsApp, Messenger) and Oculus (virtual reality).</p>

<p>Because of its sheer size, Facebook makes <em>lots</em> of people nervous &mdash; <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/17/10424752/facebook-nearby-events-location-app">its new focus on events</a>, for example, ought to send a shiver down the spine of Eventbrite. But no one was more nervous about Facebook in 2015 than the media, which relies on it heavily for traffic and audience growth. Most publications saw their traffic referrals from Facebook decline this year. At the same time, <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/13/8595263/facebooks-instant-articles-arrive-to-speed-up-the-news-feed">Facebook introduced its own fast-loading &#8220;instant articles&#8221; format</a> &mdash; which offered publishers the promise of more traffic, in exchange for less control over how their pages look.</p>
<p><q class="center">The promise of more traffic, in exchange for less control</q></p>
<p>Our best alternative to all this is a world in which publishers embrace the mobile web &mdash; but <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/20/9002721/the-mobile-web-sucks">the mobile web sucks</a>, as you yourself wrote this year. So just to start us off with an easy one here &mdash; what is the future of media?</p>
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<p><strong>Nilay Patel:</strong> First, remind me: what&rsquo;s Eventbrite? Is that something that should just be a feature of Facebook already?</p>

<p><strong>Casey:</strong> Eventbrite is the website that answers the question: what are some deeply unpopular things happening in my area?</p>

<p><strong>Nilay:</strong> RIP, Eventbrite.</p>

<p>Anyway, early this year I wrote a piece called <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/4/7488495/facebook-is-the-new-aol">Facebook is the new AOL</a>, which I thought was a pretty simple observation, but now I think I totally undersold it. Facebook has dominated the media industry&rsquo;s attention this year, because more people use Facebook than anything else. Facebook is the single most popular app on the iPhone by huge margin, according to Nielsen. If you are a media company looking to grow, you have to contend with the fact that the biggest source of new eyeballs is Facebook, and that means you kind of have to do what Facebook says. Or rather, you have to do what Facebook&rsquo;s all-powerful News Feed algorithm says, and most people seem to think that means you have to make terrible garbage designed to go viral.</p>
<p><q class="left">RIP Eventbrite</q></p>
<p>At least that&rsquo;s the pessimist&rsquo;s view. I am more optimistic than that! I think we are in a period of deep reckoning, but that people will always want to read and watch things that aren&rsquo;t just PR or spin, and that means the critical media will always have inherent value. The challenge is making money without traditional bundles of content like newspapers, magazines, and even the old model of reading a website or blog every day.</p>
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<p><strong>Casey:</strong> Reading blogs every day? How old are you, 50? As a teen, I get all my news from <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/27/7919809/snapchat-launches-discover-feature-ad-support">Snapchat Discover</a> &mdash; shout out to the Refinery 29 channel, whose &#8220;The Best Movie Shopping Montages of All Time&#8221; was one of my favorite longreads of the year.</p>

<p>But about this unbundling that we&rsquo;re living through? There are so many publications fighting for attention inside Facebook that it often feels like we&rsquo;re seeing a random sampling of all of them. How will publications retain their identities when their stories are all islands in the stream &mdash; and when traffic pressures mean that many of them are covering a much broader range of subjects than they might otherwise choose to?</p>
<p><q class="right">What is Mashable?</q></p>
<p><strong>Nilay:</strong> I think the hard truth is that some publications will totally crumble into pieces. What is <em>Mashable</em>, besides <a href="http://mashable.com/2015/12/09/tim-cook-iphone-smart-battery-case-hump/">the house organ of Apple PR</a>? No one really knows, and new reports suggest that it might draw a lower sale price because it&rsquo;s so hard to pin down. I think we&rsquo;re going to see a lot of old media brands do a lot of embarrassing things in an effort to drive clicks back to their websites from Facebook.</p>

<p><strong>Casey:</strong> Which reminds me &mdash; next year, I&rsquo;ll be giving away a bunch of free iPads to registered readers. Only on The Verge dot com!</p>

<p><strong>Nilay:</strong> But the upside is that the audiences aren&rsquo;t stupid &mdash; people will overwhelmingly turn to the brands and voices they trust to make sense of a confusing world, and the winners of that game will probably win bigger than anyone anticipates right now. In that sense the story is just the same as ever: there were winners and losers when the media distribution landscape was just a few dials on a radio, when it was 500 channels on a cable network, and when it was a handful of blogs gunning for an RSS subscription. In the end, Facebook sends you traffic when people share your work, and the best way to make that happen is probably to make great work.</p>

<p>But again, I&rsquo;m an optimist. Have you posted any kitty GIFs to the site yet today?</p>
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<p><strong>Casey:</strong> I&rsquo;m proud to report that my latest thought leadership GIF, This Kitten Is Too Tired To Fight For the Open Web Today, is currently burning up Chartbeat.</p>

<p><strong>Nilay:</strong> How do you think Mark Zuckerberg should use his distribution power? And more importantly, who competes with Facebook to check that power?</p>
<p><q class="center">How should Mark Zuckerberg use his distribution power?</q></p>
<p><strong>Casey:</strong> How Facebook should distribute the attention of 1 billion global citizens daily is a more or less impossible question. No wonder they&rsquo;ve given the job to an algorithm! But having the rapt attention of so many people brings with it some real responsibility. I&rsquo;d like to see Facebook&rsquo;s thinking around news evolve to include the belief that keeping people well informed about the world around them is part of the company&rsquo;s mission. Zuckerberg has spent years talking about Facebook as the next evolution of the newspaper. But to really be the heir to the newspaper, your mission can&rsquo;t stop at &#8220;making the world more open and connected.&#8221; You have to make the world smarter, too.</p>

<p>So if you&rsquo;ll pardon my hopeless na&iuml;vet&eacute; here: why not do some user testing next year with people who are only getting their news from Facebook? See how they compare to a control group. And then see if there aren&rsquo;t adjustments you can make to your algorithms that give people a better understanding of the world, without making the News Feed any less sticky. This could have the added benefit of rewarding accurate, high-impact, original journalism.</p>

<p>In the meantime, I see precious few checks on Facebook&rsquo;s distribution power. There&rsquo;s Google search, which still drives a lot of clicks publishers&rsquo; way, and shows how much news consumption is driven by people who are actively seeking out information. (As opposed to idly glancing at the Trending box.) And then there&rsquo;s Twitter, which for all its failures still hosts a 24/7 global conversation about the news that Facebook is desperate to horn in on.</p>

<p>Also, don&rsquo;t count out Pornhub. People <em>love</em> Pornhub.</p>
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<p><strong>Nilay:</strong> I hear <em>The New York Times</em> is freaked out by the drop in Pornhub referral traffic last month. Strange times.</p>

<p>You know, I think in many ways the story of Facebook and Twitter comes down to the power of Facebook&rsquo;s algorithmic News Feed, which explicitly creates scarcity &mdash; the system doesn&rsquo;t show users everything their friends post, and so Facebook can demand a toll from publishers for placement in the stream. Today that toll looks like simply programming content to the algorithm, tomorrow it looks like publishing Instant Articles, and maybe next year it looks like paying Facebook actual cash.</p>
<p><q class="left">Publishers will demand concessions</q></p>
<p>But the thing about paying actual cash for distribution is that publishers will demand some hard concessions in return &mdash; they won&rsquo;t just want a flood of undifferentiated clicks back to a website, they&rsquo;ll want Facebook to reconstitute their bundles and emphasize their brands so they can charge higher ad rates and make up the cost of paying Facebook. So maybe this pendulum only swings so far.</p>

<p>Twitter just shows you everything; it doesn&rsquo;t have any of that scarcity, which is why I think people gravitate to it to find news &mdash; you can see everything. It&rsquo;s a different kind of power, but one that isn&rsquo;t as easily turned into money. You can see Twitter trying to introduce some scarcity <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/6/9457267/twitter-moments-project-lightning">with Moments</a>, but, you know. It&rsquo;s Twitter.</p>

<p>But I want to get back to your idea of Facebook having some editorial responsibility around what it displays in the News Feed &mdash; why? If I want to consume a media diet that is mostly NFL highlight videos and photos of tricked-out Mustangs, isn&rsquo;t that my right? No one at the corner store makes me buy a copy of <em>The New Yorker</em> alongside <em>Us Weekly</em>; why should Facebook even care?</p>

<p><strong>Casey:</strong> Because it&rsquo;s in Facebook&rsquo;s enlightened self-interest! The alternative to a world where Facebook takes the news seriously is one that looks an awful lot like <em>Idiocracy.</em> You think their product roadmap gets any easier once President-for-Life Donald Trump signs an executive order granting himself access to all our logins and passwords? Sure, Facebook can&rsquo;t afford to be nakedly partisan &mdash; its executives&rsquo; left-center worldview is not shared by 1 billion daily users. But newspapers walked that line just fine for decades, and the resulting journalism helped to shore up our democracy. Maybe democracy will be just fine if all of us ignore politics and just keep scrolling through Mustang pics forever &mdash; but if you&rsquo;re Facebook, is that really an A/B test you want to run?</p>
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<p>But there&rsquo;s another good reason for Facebook to focus on news: people love reading it! News is a daily habit that drives tons of traffic on Facebook, and the company is constantly experimenting with new ways to highlight news stories. I&rsquo;m not arguing they take a heavy editorial hand here &mdash; a Facebook that only displays stories that affirm its corporate interests is as dystopian a vision as any. But I think Zuck wants Facebook to be a good corporate citizen, and part of that is going to be reckoning with its huge power to inform the world. It can seek to inform the world gently, and in less-traveled corners of the app. But Facebook should absolutely do it.</p>
<p><q class="right">Beyond snackable micro-content</q></p>
<p>Whoops, looks like we&rsquo;re over 1,800 words &mdash; well beyond the guidelines for snackable micro-content upon which the new world is built. But etiquette dictates that I give you the last word. Any pithy quotes that will make this piece more shareable? (If so, we should probably make it the headline.)</p>

<p><strong>Nilay:</strong> If anything, 2015 is best summed up by two media people burning 2,000 words on Facebook Emotions only to land on <em>Zuckerberg, take the wheel</em> as a realistic path forward.</p>

<p>But whatever, we need the clicks. Here&rsquo;s a GIF of a dachshund eagerly cleaning any scraps it can find from the teeth of a lion. Everything will be fine.</p>
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