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More from Reddit protest updates: news on the apps shutting down and Reddit’s fights with mods

David Pierce
David Pierce
On The Vergecast: the war for Reddit, the future of Twitter, and the new MacBook Air.

The Reddit blackout rages on, so we spent some time with Apollo developer Christian Selig figuring out why. Plus, is Threads the future of Instagram? And is a 15-inch MacBook Air the one we’ve all been waiting for?

Jay Peters
Jay Peters
“To subreddit mods: Please stay dark indefinitely!”

That’s the message from the reddark_247 Twitch stream, which shows a live count of which subreddits have gone dark to protest Reddit’s new API rules. Many communities are planning to extend their blackouts past the original Wednesday end date.

A screenshot of the reddark_247 Twitch stream.
Screenshot by Jay Peters / The Verge
Jay Peters
Jay Peters
8,471 subreddits have gone dark.

8,838 have pledged to do so. Though I have to wonder if these numbers are about to grow.

Jay Peters
Jay Peters
Reddit really seems to be trying to shore up costs.

ICYMI, the company laid off about 90 staffers as part of a goal to break even next year, The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this month. In his widely-disliked AMA on Friday, CEO Steve Huffman said that the company will “continue to be profit-driven until profits arrive” — it seems that the layoffs and the third-party API pricing changes are part of that mission.

Apollo’s Christian Selig explains his fight with Reddit — and why users revolted

‘Reddit has plugged its ears and refuses to listen to anybody but themselves. And I think there’s some very minor concessions that they can make to make people a lot happier.’

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Jay Peters
Jay Peters
7972 subreddits — and counting — have gone dark.

I’m signing off for the day, but I wanted to share the latest count of subreddits that are going private to protest Reddit’s API changes. 8,304 subreddits have pledged to do so, according to a live tracker.

The subreddit blackouts are expected to last until June 14th.

Jay Peters
Jay Peters
Here’s my 53-second summary of what’s going on with Reddit.

And you might not know that AI is at the heart of it.

Jay Peters
Jay Peters
Reddit tested blocking logins from mobile browsers and forcing you into its app, but that test is over.

Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt tells The Verge that an experiment preventing users from logging in to Reddit’s mobile website is done. A Reddit admin confirmed the test a month ago after a Redditor said they couldn’t login to the mobile site on iOS.

Jay Peters
Jay Peters
Reddit seems to be coming back.

Things have switched from “major outage” to “operational” on Reddit’s status dashboard, and a new message indicates things are getting better. “We’re observing improvements across the site and expect issue to recover for most users,” Reddit wrote. “We will continue to closely monitor the situation.”

Here’s our story about the outage.

Jay Peters
Jay Peters
Want to follow the subreddit shutdowns in real time?

The Reddark tracker that Wes posted about yesterday got too much traffic, so now you can watch the count go up in real time on Twitch. If you have the stream open, it plays a sound every time a subreddit goes dark — and over the past 15 minutes or so I’ve had the tab open, I’ve heard that sound a lot.

Jay Peters
Jay Peters
Despite the outrage and planned subreddit blackouts, Reddit still isn’t planning changes to its API pricing.

That’s according to Tim Rathschmidt in an email to me on Sunday, at least. He says the company has nothing to share besides CEO Steve Huffman’s responses in his Friday AMA (which haven’t gone over so well with Redditors).

Thousands of subreddits are planning to go dark on Monday. The most recent count I’ve seen exceeds 5,500.

Wes Davis
Wes Davis
Reddark is tracking which subreddits are going dark.

A new website called Reddark has a list of subreddits (with their subscriber counts) going dark to protest Reddit’s recent API pricing changes that prompted third-party Reddit apps like Apollo to announce they’re shutting down.

Reddit CEO Steve Huffman hosted an AMA yesterday about the changes, and it went as well as you could expect.

So far, 160 subreddits have gone dark.

Reddark

[reddark.untone.uk]

Jay Peters
Jay Peters
Alexis Ohanian: “Online community-building is more like IRL community-building than people realize. Thing is — most people don’t wanna do the work.”

The Reddit co-founder posted what sure reads like a subtweet just a few hours after fellow co-founder and current Reddit CEO Steve Huffman wrapped up his poorly-received AMA. Harsh.

Jay Peters
Jay Peters
Some subreddits are already going dark.

A few subreddits, like r/TIHI and r/polls, went private on Friday ahead of the mass platform protest that’s set to start on Monday. A mod for r/polls cited CEO Steve Huffman’s AMA as the reason for going dark early.

Thousands of subreddits are expected to participate in the protest — the latest count I’ve seen is 3,589.