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It’s Snap versus the world

Snapchat’s parent company is looking increasingly outgunned in a league of bigger players. Also: notes on Google’s Gemini, Disney tying up with Epic Games, and more.

Snapchat’s parent company is looking increasingly outgunned in a league of bigger players. Also: notes on Google’s Gemini, Disney tying up with Epic Games, and more.

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Snap CEO Evan Spiegel.
Snap CEO Evan Spiegel.
Snap CEO Evan Spiegel.
Illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge, Photo by Bloomberg/Getty Images
Alex Heath
is a contributing writer and author of the Sources newsletter.

It has been, needless to say, a rough week for Snap.

The pain started Monday, with the announcement of layoffs impacting 10 percent of employees. On Tuesday, the company reported weak earnings that sent the stock price tanking 30 percent. You could hear the solemness in CEO Evan Spiegel’s voice on the earnings call, which lasted an unusually brisk 30 minutes.

As I wrote in an October issue, the question of what happens to Snap remains a big one that many inside and around the company are wrestling with. On one hand, Snapchat has achieved a reach — 414 million daily users last quarter — that is rivaled only by a handful of other companies in the world. On the other, as the team at the investing research firm MoffettNathanson put it this week, “It is hard to see how Snap’s competitive position and financial profile gets materially better.”

Snap has fascinated me for years, in part because of how Spiegel has positioned it against the rest of social media. That approach will be on display again this weekend during the Super Bowl, when the company’s “less social media, more Snapchat” ad will air.

There are other ways Snap is acting differently from everyone else. Spiegel is still spending hundreds of millions of dollars per year on the hardware division making Spectacles, I’m told. The plan is to release another pair of the AR glasses either later this year or in 2025. Meanwhile, the much bigger players in this space, namely Apple and Meta, don’t see true AR glasses really hitting until toward the end of this decade. Google just decided to kill its first-party AR hardware because the technology was too far out from being commercially viable.

Even still, Spiegel sees building AR glasses as being existential. “We need our business to be strong enough and profitable enough to deliver the future of computing in augmented reality,” he told employees last month. He’s not alone in thinking AR will be the next platform shift. He just looks increasingly outgunned.

On the business side, he seems set on the idea that increasing revenue growth will appease investors and lift his stock price, though he has yet to prove it. The tech companies performing the best right now are focusing on the bottom line, and Snap is nowhere near being close to actual profitability.

Even if the ads business gets turned around and starts growing again, more revenue by itself is a hard pitch when Meta is growing revenue faster at a much larger scale and also producing a lot of profit. (A wild stat: Snap’s stock-based compensation last year was 29 percent of its revenue. Meta’s was 10 percent.)

Back when interest rates were low and he was the de facto head of product for Mark Zuckerberg, Spiegel could get away with Snap being the underdog, money-losing operation. Now, he’s playing catch-up on generative AI and is late to flattening his org chart. Who is copying whom, exactly?

Morale inside public companies tends to trend with the stock price, and Snap has certainly been a rollercoaster since it went public. But after the events of this week, the question is whether Spiegel can convince others to stay on the ride with him.


Notebook

My thoughts on what else is happening in tech right now:

  • Bard becomes Gemini: Google can’t stop renaming things. The real news here is that Gemini Ultra, Google’s answer to GPT-4, is finally out and being bundled in a new Google One $20 a month subscription plan. The Gemini mobile app only being available on Android is a choice that I would like to know more about. If you read last week’s issue, you knew that Google Assistant was going to become Bard / Gemini soon. That’s starting today. It’s a big deal for where Google is heading. But I think OpenAI can rest easy for now.
  • Also: Here’s CEO Sundar Pichai on CNBC today addressing my story about the company’s tense all-hands meeting last week: “I don’t think most companies engage with employees in the transparent way we do, and I think that creates some of this conversation outside. But I’ve always viewed it as a source of strength for the company and we’ll work through this moment.”
  • Epic and Disney, sitting in a tree: Disney’s putting $1.5 billion into Epic Games makes it one of the largest shareholders next to CEO Tim Sweeney, who a spokesperson says will continue to maintain voting control after the transaction closes. Epic was valued at $31.5 billion when it last raised money in 2022, before it did layoffs and saw its business growth slow. I’m told this Disney round is being done at a solid discount from that last known valuation. (Epic has historically touted its up-and-to-the-right valuation in press releases for funding rounds but didn’t mention it this time.) Still, having Disney’s IP in the Fortnite universe is a huge win for Sweeney and a blow to Roblox. Props to Disney for finally realizing that it needs to have a bigger presence in video games, where young people have been spending their time for a while. And this may be the beginning of Epic’s comeback; I’ve heard that the fourth quarter was its best ever in terms of revenue.
  • Glasshole redux? I’m not sure Apple wants the free marketing it is getting from people wearing the Vision Pro in all sorts of ill-advised situations. Sure, it’s great for Apple that people want to wear the thing in the wild, and T-Pain is gonna T-Pain, but the optics of dudes (and let’s be honest, it’s all dudes) driving with them and walking down the street while gesturing is cringe. Several friends have sent me the Cartier Buffs meme. I’m guessing we are one turn away from coffee shops, gyms, and the like banning headsets.
  • Don’t miss: My story on Bluesky, a decentralized rival to X and Threads that I hyped early on in this newsletter, opening up for anyone to join. (Plus: this new paper on its underlying AT Protocol.) I also interviewed Meta’s Nick Clegg about the company’s new effort to label AI-generated content: “Do I think that there is a possibility that something may happen where, however quickly it’s detected or quickly labeled, nonetheless we’re somehow accused of having dropped the ball? Yeah, I think that is possible, if not likely.”

People moves

Some interesting career moves I’ve noticed recently:

  • Some of the senior people who were laid off at Snap: content partnerships VP David Brinker; developer partnerships VP Konstantinos Papamiltiadis; Spotlight director Sam Corrao Clanon; and content engineering VP Ding Zhou.
  • Zhang Nan, the CEO of ByteDance’s China version of TikTok, Douyin, is moving inside the company to run CapCut, its AI-powered video editing app.
  • Ahmad Abbas, an ex-engineering manager for the Vision Pro, is Midjourney’s first head of hardware. “We will make the orb.” Huh.
  • Reema Batta recently started as VP of growth marketing at Figma.
  • Melika Carroll joined Cohere to lead government affairs and public policy.
  • A couple of recent OpenAI additions: Varun Shetty, a former partnerships director at Meta, is now running media partnerships. And Tom Cunningham, a former senior data scientist at Meta and Twitter, also joined.
  • Erik Schluntz, co-founder of Cobalt Robotics, has joined Anthropic’s technical staff. And Ashwin Vaswani joined Google DeepMind as a multimodal research engineer.

Interesting links


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