More from Epic v. Google: everything we learned in Fortnite court
I thought Google would change its policy — but no, existing payments policy pages haven’t changed. Instead, the news Google can no longer force you into Play Billing is on a separate page, one that doesn’t show up when I type “Play Billing” or “require billing” into the search console.
In the meanwhile, on October 29th, Google will have to change its Android app store in big ways. “While we will comply, it forces us to weaken vital security protections, jeopardizing user safety and the open Android model that supports millions of developers,” writes Google spokesperson Dan Jackson.
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Document here. Google argues it shouldn’t be “subject to dramatically different antitrust regulatory regimes based on diverging opinions from different panels of this Court,” so it’s asking for en banc review, where the full Ninth Circuit (not just the previous three-judge panel) can decide whether it won on appeal.
Here’s the entire court filing:
Google LLC (“Google”) has filed an emergency motion for an administrative stay of the district court’s permanent injunction, entered October 7, 2024, pending Google’s forthcoming motion to stay the injunction pending further appellate proceedings. Google’s emergency motion (Dkt. Entry No. 201) is granted. Google should file its motion to stay the injunction pending further appellate proceedings no later than August 8, 2025.
Google previously had two weeks to begin complying. Now it has three weeks, or longer — depends whether these judges think the full Ninth Circuit or Supreme Court will want to weigh in on the permanent injunction against Google.
As expected, the search giant is seeking to overturn a ruling that would force it to overhaul the Play Store. Google argues that Judge Donato should have never left the decision to a jury, and failed to recognize Apple as a smartphone competitor like another judge did in Apple v Epic.
If not reversed, the injunction and the flawed liability ruling underlying it will directly undercut Google’s efforts to compete against Apple and the iPhone, a competitive dynamic that has spurred innovation and brought concrete benefits to consumers around the world.
Google may not have to open up its Play Store for years, if at all, while it appeals the verdict. Oral arguments are scheduled to begin on February 3rd.
The court order just came in, and I’ve corrected our story. Bolding mine:
The Court grants a partial stay of the permanent injunction pending the circuit court’s resolution of the stay requests Google filed there, with the exception of ¶ 8 of the injunction, which is not stayed.
Paragraph 8 says:
Will Google begin opening up its store on November 1st, or will it get to delay for years on appeal? We’ll find out tomorrow; in the meanwhile, you can read Epic’s opposition at the link below.
Epic argues Google’s already had plenty of time to change things — since the jury’s verdict was 10 months ago.
Last week, Judge Donato ruled that Google would have to open up Android to third-party app stores starting November 1st — but Google immediately filed an appeal and asked for an emergency stay.
Now, the judge will hear Google’s motion on October 18th. If he grants it, it could be years until Google makes changes, even if higher courts agree with his ruling.
Following a final ruling that says Google will have to open up the Play Store to third-party marketplaces, Google reaffirmed its plans to appeal the decision.
At the same time, Google is also asking the court to pause Epic Games’ requests to distribute rival app stores and adjust its payment system. Apple was granted a reprieve during its Epic legal battle last year.
That’s according to Google’s head of Android security, David Kleidermacher, who is publicly pushing back on the claims made by Epic Games in its new lawsuit against Google and Samsung.
Earlier, Samsung said it plans to “vigorously contest Epic Game’s baseless claims.”
Google, too, wouldn’t confirm or deny whether it worked with Samsung on the feature, which is now the target of a new Epic Games lawsuit against both companies.
Instead, Google tells The Verge that it’s “a meritless lawsuit”; Samsung tells us it plans to “vigorously contest Epic Game’s baseless claims.”