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Wolfe Herd says they’re “definitely on the roadmap.”
She says it’s important to do it responsibly, though, and focus on “never inundating the customer.”
“We do see a huge opportunity in advertising partnerships across the group,” she says. But the company still sees plenty of room to grow its current subscriptions business. “We don’t think the subscription model opportunity is nearly at its potential right now.”
Makes sense, given her plans for a high-priced AI tier.
Whitney Wolfe Herd envisions an AI coach — “certainly not launching tomorrow, but very realistic” — that you’d be able to tell everything you want out of a partner. It would then go and sync up with other users’ coaches and try to find a match.
Wolfe Herd:
So now instead of you having to swipe and match and chat with dozens of people, you could only talk to the three people who came back as qualified individuals for what you’re looking for. You could really use AI to supercharge compatibility.
Next on the schedule: Bumble CEO Whitney Wolfe Herd, a panel on AI ethics, and a chat between Kara Swisher and former Twitter trust and safety leader Yoel Roth.
Who’s better to ask questions of the co-founder of Instagram than the current head of Instagram?
The Verge’s Alex Heath asked the question, written in on Threads by Instagram leader Adam Mosseri, in response to Artifact co-founder Mike Krieger, one of the co-founders of Instagram.
Code’s on pause while everyone grabs lunch. Things start up again at 5:50PM ET with Bumble CEO Whitney Wolfe Herd, a panel on AI ethics, and more.
An audience member asked about how Lovett and Swisher handle strong parasocial relationships from listeners.
Swisher said the strong bond was why she got into podcasting into the first place, then recounted a recent interaction she had at a wedding.
“An older person came up to me and said ‘You’re my friend,’” Swisher said. “And then they said, ‘I’m not your friend, but you’re my friend.’” That experience, she said, was “freaky and fantastic.”
“It’s gonna be close,” Lovett says.
He thinks the media has better learned how to cover Trump, though. “I am a little bit more optimistic,” he told Axios’ Ina Fried in an audience question. “I think there has been a lot of lessons learned.”
The Pod Save America crew got in when podcasting was nascent and there was still a lot of free listening time.
Now, they both agree, there’s less opportunity. “Getting someone to add a new podcast to the mix is harder than it once was,” Lovett says.
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