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Jacob Kastrenakes

Jacob Kastrenakes

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    Bird Buddy co-founder Kyle Buzzard is here to talk about his smart bird feeder.

    It uses AI to identify bird species, take photos of them, and organize the photos on your phone.

    He compares it to real life Pokemon Go, which... kind of rules. I’m all in on birds now.

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    Ads are coming to Bumble... someday.

    Wolfe Herd says they’re “definitely on the roadmap.”

    She says it’s important to do it responsibly, though, and focus on “never inundating the customer.”

    “We do see a huge opportunity in advertising partnerships across the group,” she says. But the company still sees plenty of room to grow its current subscriptions business. “We don’t think the subscription model opportunity is nearly at its potential right now.”

    Makes sense, given her plans for a high-priced AI tier.

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    Jacob Kastrenakes
    AI dating coaches could save a whole lot of swiping, says Bumble’s CEO.

    Whitney Wolfe Herd envisions an AI coach — “certainly not launching tomorrow, but very realistic” — that you’d be able to tell everything you want out of a partner. It would then go and sync up with other users’ coaches and try to find a match.

    Wolfe Herd:

    So now instead of you having to swipe and match and chat with dozens of people, you could only talk to the three people who came back as qualified individuals for what you’re looking for. You could really use AI to supercharge compatibility.

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    Bumble CEO Whitney Wolfe Herd is up.

    She’s being interviewed by CNBC senior media and tech correspondent Julia Boorstin.

    From question one, they’re jumping right in on AI and how it’s used to power Bumble’s algorithms.

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    Jacob Kastrenakes
    Things are about to start back up.

    Next on the schedule: Bumble CEO Whitney Wolfe Herd, a panel on AI ethics, and a chat between Kara Swisher and former Twitter trust and safety leader Yoel Roth.

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    Jacob Kastrenakes
    The Instagram —> Threads —> Code Conference pipeline.

    Who’s better to ask questions of the co-founder of Instagram than the current head of Instagram?

    The Verge’s Alex Heath asked the question, written in on Threads by Instagram leader Adam Mosseri, in response to Artifact co-founder Mike Krieger, one of the co-founders of Instagram.

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    Jacob Kastrenakes
    Alright, time for a break.

    Code’s on pause while everyone grabs lunch. Things start up again at 5:50PM ET with Bumble CEO Whitney Wolfe Herd, a panel on AI ethics, and more.

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    “It’s freaky and fantastic at the same time.”

    An audience member asked about how Lovett and Swisher handle strong parasocial relationships from listeners.

    Swisher said the strong bond was why she got into podcasting into the first place, then recounted a recent interaction she had at a wedding.

    “An older person came up to me and said ‘You’re my friend,’” Swisher said. “And then they said, ‘I’m not your friend, but you’re my friend.’” That experience, she said, was “freaky and fantastic.”

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    Jacob Kastrenakes
    Most of their conversation has been about the 2024 election.

    “It’s gonna be close,” Lovett says.

    He thinks the media has better learned how to cover Trump, though. “I am a little bit more optimistic,” he told Axios’ Ina Fried in an audience question. “I think there has been a lot of lessons learned.”

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    Jacob Kastrenakes
    Lovett and Swisher are discussing the challenge of getting into podcasting in 2023.

    The Pod Save America crew got in when podcasting was nascent and there was still a lot of free listening time.

    Now, they both agree, there’s less opportunity. “Getting someone to add a new podcast to the mix is harder than it once was,” Lovett says.