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“We’ve tried to come at this from a publisher friendly perspective,” Mike Krieger said. Artifact thrives if the publisher ecosystem “is healthy and thriving,” so that approach is a long-term play.

“It’s about recognizing what needs to exist several years from now for you to have a viable product,” Krieger said

He’s happy to see that some of the ethos he and co-founder Kevin Systrom built continue onward, though. “They really nailed photo galleries on Threads,” he said.

Artifact, his news app, has been doing some neat things with AI and just launched a fun new section called Links.

“Today we know more about the DoorDash person who delivered our food than the person who grew our food,” he says.

Monarch makes an electric, autonomous tractor that runs on top of Nvidia AI tech. It’s a big day for AI convos, and Penmetsa’s company is trying to expand the tech to a very different corner of the market than everyone else.

Here’s Allen:

“Their biggest challenge is how do you decouple it. How do you pull it out of their ecosystem? It’s integrated into everything Disney.”

Once Iger does figure it out, Allen says, “I’m gonna chase it down like a lion chasing down a gazelle.”

He says tech companies can’t buy it because they “can’t even buy a lemonade stand today” without regulators getting upset. And the big media companies are “maxed out” in terms of broadcast assets under FCC rules.

“I’m the prettiest girl at the dance,” he says. “The best looking thing you’re ever gonna see this year.”

“I said hold up, hold up,” Allen said. “You’re joking, right? ... I don’t care who we offend, we’re going to tell the American people the truth.”