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Lauren Feiner

Lauren Feiner

Senior Policy Reporter

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    Foreign-owned newspapers are far different from social media, Prelogar says.

    The difference, she argues, is both that newspapers collect far less information than social media sites and that readers understand a newspaper may be transmitting some of its owners’ views. By contrast, she says, social media users expect a platform is organically facilitating others’ speech, when it actually may be covertly manipulated.

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    Gorsuch suggests the US is taking a “paternalistic” approach when it comes to TikTok.

    “Don’t we normally assume the best remedy for problematic speech is counter-speech?” he asks. He seems skeptical of Prelogar’s argument that a disclosure on TikTok that its content recommendations could be covertly manipulated would be too broad to make Americans aware of the risks.

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    It’s the government’s turn in the hot seat.

    US Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar says in her opening statement that TikTok could be used to build profiles on Americans and be used for “harassment, recruitment, and espionage.” It’s not just collecting info on the 170 million Americans on the platform, she says, but also their contacts that users have granted access to.

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    Alito asks if creators are simply “attached” to TikTok.

    The justice asks if it’s “like somebody’s attachment to an old article of clothing,” or if there’s something about TikTok’s current composition that is impossible to replicate, even with “all the geniuses at Meta.” Fisher says you can’t just replicate the particular “collection of genius” with “another group of people.”

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    Gorsuch says he’s concerned about the government’s attempt to lodge “secret evidence.”

    The lower court decided that it wasn’t necessary for it to see the classified information on which Congress based its decision that TikTok’s ownership structure poses a national security threat. But Gorsuch seems to have some reservations about how that played out.

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    Justice Sotomayor suggests TikTok collects far more data than other platforms.

    Based on briefs filed with the court, Sotomayor says, TikTok seems to collect an unusually large amount of data. And even if users choose to share it, she says, it’s not about whether users think it’s okay to share; it’s whether the US sees it as a threat. Fisher says many of those assumptions don’t “bear out.”

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    “It’s not enough to say national security. You have to say, what is the real harm?” TikTok creator’s attorney argues.

    In an exchange with Justice Jackson, Fisher argues that speaking on TikTok can’t be compared to restrictions on Americans associating with dangerous groups like terrorist organizations. Unlike in cases around those restrictions, the government hasn’t singled out a clear and present danger when it comes to TikTok.

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    The law doesn’t say what TikTok thinks it does, Jackson says.

    Liberal Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says that the law in question “doesn’t say, ‘TikTok, you can’t speak.’” What TikTok seems to want, she suggests, is access to ByteDance’s algorithm — but if TikTok came up with its own algorithm after divestiture, it could still operate.

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    “Any new TikTok would be a fundamentally different platform,” TikTok’s attorney says.

    In an exchange with Justice Barrett, Noel Francisco explains the two reasons why it’s not possible to disentangle from ByteDance: first, that it would take years to reconstruct a team that could maintain the source code, and second, that it would need to get users around the world to sign up for an essentially new platform to share content.

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    “If ByteDance divested TikTok, we wouldn’t be here,” Barrett says.

    Justice Barrett doesn’t seem to be buying that the law is a straightforward ban on TikTok. “You keep saying shut down,” she says to TikTok’s attorney about what would happen after January 19th. “The law doesn’t say that TikTok has to shut down.”