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    Twitter was once “the free speech wing of the free speech party.” Now Elon Musk is in charge.

    Twitter’s moderation practices are a subject of today’s case before the Supreme Court, and things have only gotten sketchier and more chaotic since a new Chief Twit took over the company.

    Musk may have inherited this legal mess when he bought Twitter for $44 billion, but now he literally owns it. It will be interesting to see if the company’s new reputation under Musk will give the plaintiffs an edge in arguments.

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    Join us again and listen to the Supreme Court consider the future of the internet.

    The justices will reconvene at 10AM ET and oral arguments will begin shortly after in Twitter v Taamneh. If you need to catch up on the action in Gonzalez v. Google, check out yesterday’s coverage from Adi.

    You can listen along live to today’s arguments here as we post updates throughout the hearing:

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    “You can’t call it neutral once the defendant knows its algorithm is doing it.”

    That’s the last word from the plaintiffs in rebuttal, and it’s a statement worth chewing on. There’s a lot to think about here, but the court is now adjourned until tomorrow’s arguments in Twitter v. Taamneh. Stay tuned for more coverage, and thanks for joining us!

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    “How do you operate a website if you don’t have a homepage?”

    We agree, Google. Check us out on the web: www.theverge.com.

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    Google: it’s not helpful when states make their own decisions that affect us.

    This might be too obvious to point out, but national and international internet organizations often say they experience substantial hardship when laws are fragmented. That’s why California and the EU have been so instrumental in leading the way on internet regulation; it can be easier for platform giants to simply harmonize the rules everywhere based on the strictest regulation in one place, rather than forking their platform and policies to comply with a bunch of localities.

    Google and every other big platform does not want to be subject to an even greater patchwork of laws, which could be an outcome of 230 being weakened.

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    Google: what do you want on the internet? The Truman Show or a horror show?

    Google has come out swinging, pushing back fiercely against the court for “incorrect” premises in its questioning. One colorful moment that just happened: Blatt offering a hypothetical if 230 gets overturned.

    According to Google, it’s a land of extremes. We’ll either live in The Truman Show, where everyone moderates everything into oblivion, or a horror show, where nobody moderates anything. These are not hyperbolic examples — it’s exactly the question at the heart of 230 protections.

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    The court fairly asks Google: whose recommendation is a “recommendation?”

    Google’s attorney Lisa S. Blatt is now up in the final hour of arguments, and she’s already getting some pointed questions — off the bat, who is really responsible for one of YouTube’s recommendations? The court suggests it’s not the user, who merely uploaded content and is not responsible for how the overall system works.

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    Elon Musk has weirdly created a useful endpoint in an algorithmic spectrum.

    DOJ pointed out during arguments that when a computer is doing things there is “no live human being” making a choice, at least on an individual basis. And that’s true when large teams of people are making distributed and collective decisions.

    In the case of Twitter, however, we now have an example of what happens when one man explicitly turns the knobs in a certain direction.

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    I really want to unpack this Venn diagram.

    The DOJ is threading a needle here between respecting the expansive possibilities of Section 230 on one side and fields like antitrust law on the other. When speaking about algorithmic recommendations, DOJ says “I don’t know if we would call it the platform’s own speech but the platform’s own conduct.” I’m very curious to hear more about the overlap of “speech” and “conduct” here since a distinction has been drawn!

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    The court keeps talking about “neutral tools,” which is a problem in itself.

    We’ve heard this a few times already: the court referring to an algorithm operating on “neutral terms”. Justice Gorsuch just poked a big hole in that idea by noting “some [algorithms] might even favor one point of view over another,” for example, by privileging revenue motives.

    Indeed, there is no such thing as a “neutral” algorithm. They are all built by human beings with various and competing motivations and intents.

    This is one of the more exciting Supreme Court oral argument sessions on tech in a while!