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    Will Call of Duty be removed from PlayStation?

    Microsoft’s lawyer wants to know Dr. Lee’s opinion on whether Call of Duty will be on PlayStation after the merger:

    “I don’t agree that it will be on PlayStation for certainty,” says Dr. Lee, arguing that “it’s likely the foreclosure of Activision content will occur” in the console market.

    Judge Corley cuts in and wants to get a clear answer. Lee says it’s likely that Activision content will be foreclosed, but he can’t say whether Call of Duty is likely to be with withdrawn from PlayStation.

    There’s a back and forth and Judge Corley intervenes again: “There are a lot of popular games, not just Activision. And there’s no way of predicting what’s going to be the most popular game.”

    Judge Corley wants to know why Dr. Lee hasn’t analyzed Call of Duty separately. Dr. Lee says Microsoft is likely to foreclose Call of Duty and other Activision titles.

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    We’re back with Dr. Lee.

    A brief lunch break and Microsoft’s lawyer now continues to question Dr. Lee. This time it’s about Microsoft’s 10-year offer for Call of Duty on PlayStation.

    “In my analysis I only look at agreements that have been signed,” says Dr. Lee. Microsoft’s lawyer points out there are agreements that have been signed between Microsoft and competitors. Microsoft’s lawyer is keen to point out an agreement for Final Fantasy 16 exclusivity.

    Microsoft lawyer: One of the things Sony could do is take a game that was on multiple platforms and pay to have it only on PlayStation right?

    Dr. Lee: That is my understanding. Do you have a particular example?

    Microsoft lawyer: Do you know the game Final Fantasy 16?

    Dr. Lee: I’ve heard of that game.

    Microsoft lawyer: Do you know that it was on Xbox and PS5?

    Dr. Lee: I don’t know what console that was released on.

    After this exchange Dr. Lee is asked whether exclusive games are harmful to competition? Dr. Lee admits that exclusivity can have “both pro and anti-competitive effects.”

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    Break time.

    We’re taking a 30-minute break for lunch. It has been an intense hour and a half listening to Dr. Lee’s deposition with clear frustrations from both sides. Judge Corley is also trying to understand the modelling here and joked part of the way through as she stepped in to solve a basic math question.

    We’ll be back soon with more models. I can’t. Wait. Honestly.

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    The CMA’s survey gets a mention.

    Microsoft’s lawyer has now introduced the UK’s Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) analysis of Call of Duty being Xbox exclusive and whether it would financially benefit Microsoft.

    The CMA had originally provisionally concluded that a Microsoft strategy to withhold Call of Duty from PlayStation would be profitable, but Microsoft wasn’t happy with that and publicly criticized the regulator’s math. The CMA then adjusted its financial model and sided with Microsoft, leaving just cloud concerns for it to decide to block the merger.

    Microsoft’s own survey used a wider number of users than the CMA’s own survey which includes a number of people who do not play Call of Duty. Microsoft’s questioning to Dr. Lee here is around whether he saw this survey and considered it in his own analysis. He confirms he didn’t look at the survey and things are getting a little more fraught around the questioning here. Microsoft’s lawyer sternly asks: “Professor Lee, can you answer my question?”

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    To exclusive or not to exclusive, that is the question.

    Microsoft has its own models for Activision games and analysis about keeping games exclusive. “Nobody at Microsoft recommended withholding Activision games,” says Microsoft’s lawyer. Dr. Lee responds:

    “My understanding is that for consoles [Microsoft] recommended not exclusive, but for subscription services they recommended exclusivity.”

    Microsoft’s lawyer is quick to point out Dr. Lee doesn’t have a model for subscription services, but it’s revealing that Activision games are important for Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass subscription but not for pure console sales.

    Earlier, PlayStation chief Jim Ryan said he was concerned about Microsoft using Call of Duty to damage PlayStation, and Sony would obviously be concerned with Call of Duty being bundled into Game Pass to tempt PlayStation players to switch to Xbox and not have to pay $70 for CoD.

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    Breaking down Dr. Lee’s models.

    OK we’re really getting into the weeds of the deal models here from Dr. Lee. This is key, because it’s quantitative analysis of the impact of Microsoft’s deal on competition.

    Dr. Lee has two models: share and foreclosure. Both have separate inputs and different data sets and are designed to predict the impact of withholding Call of Duty from PlayStation.

    Share model

    The share model measures overall North American gen 8 console sales (Xbox One / PS4) and then applies a likely outcome if Call of Duty was removed from PlayStation.

    It predicts that in the console market there would be a share shift of 8.9 percentage points, based on past sales data of Xbox One and PS4 consoles.

    This share model uses only North American market data and no assumed conversion rate. The share model doesn’t predict content library share shift, nor cloud gaming.

    Foreclosure model

    The foreclosure model measures global console sales that includes gen 9 (Xbox Series S / X and PS5) to predict the future. Inputs in the foreclosure model aren’t the same as share model, as it has a conversion rate that assumes 20 percent of Call of Duty players would convert to Xbox.

    In this foreclosure model it predicts a share shift of 5.5 percentage points. The model is designed to work out at what point the benefits would exceed the cost if Microsoft were to withhold Call of Duty from PlayStation. The foreclosure model doesn’t predict content library share shift, nor cloud gaming.

    What does it all mean?!

    This is all a little hard to follow precisely as some numbers are being redacted in this deposition as they’re sensitive and Microsoft’s lawyer is drawing diagrams I can’t see. But Microsoft’s lawyer argues that if Dr. Lee is wrong about the 20 percent conversion rate in the foreclosure model, if it was 15 percent then “it doesn’t give Xbox a net positive for an incentive or reason” to withhold Call of Duty.

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    Questions over Dr. Lee’s report.

    Microsoft’s lawyer, Beth Wilkinson, is asking Dr. Robin Lee about the quantitative models he has used to create his report. Dr. Lee predicts how many PlayStation players would switch to Xbox if Call of Duty was exclusive to Xbox:

    “On average during Call of Duty titles during generation 8, Xbox share would increase by 8.9 percentage points.”

    Such a loss would come from PlayStation losing players, as Call of Duty isn’t available on Nintendo Switch. Wilkinson argues that Dr. Lee’s model takes the data from older consoles and then applies it to new consoles.

    Wilkinson also points out that Dr. Lee doesn’t have models for share shift in multi-game subscriptions or cloud gaming where titles like Call of Duty are taken away fully.

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    They’re arguing about the Nintendo Switch again.

    Microsoft’s lawyer is questioning the FTC’s economic expert, Dr. Robin Lee. He has defined the PlayStation and Xbox as a “high performance” console market that’s separate to the Nintendo Switch.

    This has been an argument between Microsoft and the FTC for all three days of this hearing. Microsoft’s lawyer is bringing up documents from Sony where it describes the Nintendo Switch as a competitor for contracts with Activision.

    Lee is rather evasive in his answers about how he has defined the console market, which you can tell is frustrating Microsoft’s lawyer Beth Wilkinson.

    I find this whole argument tedious. Of course PlayStation and Xbox compete with Nintendo Switch, but not in the same way as they compete with each other.

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    FTC’s economic expert testimony.

    We’re now hearing a deposition from the FTC’s economic expert, Dr. Robin Lee.

    Lee agrees with the FTC’s market definition of Xbox Series S / X and PS5 consoles as “high performance” instead of the broader market including consoles like the Nintendo Switch. Lee ran models on competitive analysis between Xbox Series S / X and PS5.

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    5-minute break, recap time.

    We have a short 5-minute break until the FTC calls its next witness. Here’s the recap of PlayStation chief Jim Ryan’s deposition:

    • Sony is wary of sharing PS6 info with Microsoft
    • Sony’s Activision alarm bells began ringing in August 2022

    • Jim Ryan confirms he told Activision Bobby Kotick he wanted Microsoft’s deal blocked

    • Publishers don’t like Game Pass, Ryan says

    • Xbox beat PS5 sales for three months in 2021

    • Jim Ryan says cloud gaming won’t be a thing until at least 2025

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