Decoder
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas – and other problems. Verge Editor-in-Chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policy makers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future. Subscribe here!





Imbue CEO Kanjun Qiu comes on the show to discuss this week’s OpenAI news and whether the AI industry will trend toward closed or open ecosystems.

RJ Scaringe on not politicizing Rivian and how he’s dealing with tariffs, China, and prepping for R2.

Anthropic’s David Hershey joins the show to discuss Claude Sonnet 4.5 and the current landscape for agentic AI.

Guest host Joanna Stern and the head of Ford discuss Apple CarPlay Ultra, competing with BYD, and what car she should lease next.

AI firms are now working with weapons makers and the military. Safety expert Heidy Khlaaf breaks down what that means.

“Never break trois.”

New York Times reporter Kashmir Hill on AI psychosis, user delusions, and teen safety.

Guest host Hank Green and Digitas CEO Amy Lanzi go deep on digital marketing, AI, and the influencer-creator debate.

The OpenAI chairman, now working on AI agents at his new startup Sierra, on why he’s all in on AI.

The CEO of Khan Academy and guest host Hank Green on online education and what AI assistants can really do for learning.

Why the EyesOnOpenAI coalition is pushing the AI giant to help humanity instead of chase profits.

Why Amazon AGI Labs chief David Luan thinks solving agents is the next ‘S-curve’ for AI.

Steph “kepano” Ango on why productivity tools need community more than they need AI.

Nick Turley says OpenAI wants to be able to ‘unequivocally endorse’ ChatGPT to ‘a struggling family member.’

The head of Notion on productivity, LEGO, and what he learned from Kyoto’s craft tradition.

The head of GitHub says coding with AI is ‘here to stay.’

Anysphere CEO Michael Truell and guest host Casey Newton discuss Cursor and the future of programming.

The Verge’s Hayden Field and I chat about how AI researcher became the most lucrative tech job of all time.

Robin AI CEO Richard Robinson on hallucinations, facts versus truth, and how lawyers can use generative AI today.

Captions CEO Gaurav Misra on his company’s alarming deepfake report and what to watch out for as the tech advances.

Guest host Jon Fortt and The Nerd Reich author Gil Duran discuss the Dark Enlightenment and the rise of tech authoritarianism.

Aravind Srinivas on Perplexity’s new Comet web browser, the AI talent frenzy, and a future IPO.

Cassie Kozyrkov, former chief decision scientist at Google, on how AI influences decision-making.

Meaning founder and former Verge reporter Ellis Hamburger on the ethical vacuum in AI and what founders aren’t saying publicly.

The head of the home appliance giant on grilling, product design, and the future of viral marketing.

The head of the WordPress project on the WP Engine lawsuit, Automattic turning 20, and what’s next for the web.

The head of Hinge on AI, monetization, and the future of online dating.

The head of the Ikea-owned gig work platform on AI automation, the state of the gig economy, and the future of labor.

The head of the AI video platform on Hollywood, copyright, and the future of filmmaking.

The head of Airbnb on his company’s new redesign and the quest to sell you much more than travel.

Journalist Megan Greenwell’s new book Bad Company explores the ways private equity has transformed American business.

The head of Google discusses the next AI platform shift and how it could change how we use the internet forever.

The head of Uber on autonomous cars, shared rides, and the future of mobility.

One of Microsoft’s top AI leaders on the future of agents, web search, and AI art.

Gerrit Kazmaier on what AI can really do and the quest to make enterprise software suck less.

Breaking down the latest Epic v. Apple ruling and what it means for the future of the App Store.

President Paul Bascobert on distribution, press freedom, and the value of facts.

A look at some of the things Trump has — and sometimes hasn’t — broken in 100 days