Sean Hollister

Now we’re talking about Google Play Protect, which automatically scans apps for malware. It’s recently been getting better at blocking malicious apps but didn’t block predatory loan apps and some knockoff apps in a TechCrunch test.

I don’t know if Epic’s sticking the landing here with so few visceral examples of bad apps (we saw just two user reviews calling out a scam, and the title S-ON Sexual Therapy), but Kleidermacher did amusingly suggest that Google allows users to download the bad apps without warnings because of user consent.

“There is user consent in one place, there is not user consent in the other place,” he said.

Epic pounced — how could a user’s decision to download an app from a website not constitute consent? Kleidermacher suggested the consent comes as part of Unknown Sources: “You’d have to authorize the browser to install first.”

“We have risk measurements for developers on the Play Store,” says Kleidermacher. (They’re explained here.)

“Generally speaking, the operating system views internet downloads as coming from an unknown source,” he said later.

It never happened. “My proposal has not launched in that form,” says Kleidermacher.

Epic attorney Yonatan Even seems to be trying to suggest it was the genesis of the Unknown Sources idea that adds friction when users sideload apps — but hasn’t yet made a firm link.

Is Google justified in charging its fees because it protects Android users?

Before the break, we saw Google present an internal slide that included the phrase: “75% of Android Owners say Google Play is a safe place to get apps even while less than half are aware of Google Play Protect.”

I really do use the blue cushion every single day in court. Keeps this laptop from slipping off my lap.

It was a presentation titled “What we worry about.” She said: “There’s an Apple logo on that phone.”

Epic had previously pointed out that several of Google’s presentations about competition made no mention of Apple.

Epic, by the way, did not miss that paragraph about the “world of pain.” Hueston made sure the jury saw it and heard it.

“Which store is a safe place to get apps?” Android declined from 78 percent to 75 percent, while iOS went up from 80 percent to 84 percent in three months. I wonder if Google had anything related to security around that time that made the news?

“6 percent may seem like a small number, but out of 3 billion...” she does the math, seemingly instantly, and says it’s 180 million people potentially switching.

On the giant spreadsheet we saw earlier, Google points out a different number than Epic did: nearly 14 percent of Android users switch to iOS in the United States specifically, according to Google’s internal estimates.