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Sean Hollister

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    “Android development costs don’t just benefit Google Play, right?”

    Okay, now we’re getting into it — apparently Google Play’s P&L explicitly doesn’t include Google’s costs of developing Android, and Epic’s pushing Cramer to explain why. He basically says it’s because Play is part of Google’s broader Android ecosystem, not its own business — despite having its own P&L.

    “If Play Store was an independent company you would incur other costs that are not reflected on the Play P&L today and don’t need to because Play is not a standalone company,” he says.

    But “Android development costs don’t just benefit Google Play, right?” asks a lawyer.

    “I don’t want to speculate...” Cramer begins, “I think it’s fair to say the Android investments, are, yeah, connected to broader ecosystem.”

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    Sean Hollister
    But first, Christian Cramer, a Google Play finance director, is speaking.

    We’re watching a taped video deposition from January 13th, 2022, and lawyers are asking Cramer about Google’s P&Ls — the profit and loss accounting used by businesspeople to help make decisions about how to run a company.

    Cramer is testifying that Android had a separate P&L from Google Play, which relates to a point Epic has been trying to subtly make for a while. Google has argued that its Google Play app store isn’t as much of a “profit center” as it seems because it doesn’t account for all of Google’s costs — the money it had to invest bring you Google Play and Android.

    But maybe Google’s costs were considered a separate business? We’ll find out.

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    Sean Hollister
    Epic v. Google day 11. Expect expertise.

    We’re back in the courtroom in San Francisco, and we’re going to be hearing from more experts today — we’ve been told accountants and economists will arrive to (presumably) argue why Google does or doesn’t deserve its full app store fee.

    We’ll start with accountants, and Judge Donato says he wants things to run smoothly and quickly. “This is the week to wrap up the facts,” says the judge. “We’re going to drive the wagon over the pass and reach the promised land.”

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    Sean Hollister
    That AirJet-equipped MacBook I told you about.

    In case you read my story this morning before we added its accompanying vid, here’s how three Frore AirJets affected the sustained performance of a 15-inch MacBook Air.

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    Sean Hollister
    Foxconn founder Terry Gou is no longer running for president of Taiwan.

    It’s the second time the man behind Apple’s iPhone factories has dropped out of the race after failing to secure the opposition party’s nomination. His withdrawal comes one month after China began investigating Foxconn — possibly for political reasons — and nearly three months after he resigned from the board of Foxconn for “personal reasons”.

    Sources told Reuters his withdrawal brings “a sense of relief” to Foxconn. He stepped down as head of Foxconn in 2019.

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    Sean Hollister
    Lion Knights’ Castle, the GOAT of Lego sets, is on sale for its best price ever.

    I kid you not: if I had to pick just one Lego set ever made, this epic transforming castle packed with clever details and play features would be the one. I sold off my airsoft guns to afford the $400 set at launch — now, Lego has it on backorder for $300 alongside the awesome Loop Coaster (also $300) and UCS Razor Crest ($420). I’ve never seen this one on sale before.

    Note: If you buy something from these links, we might get affiliate revenue.

    A big classic yellow styled Lego box showing a castle playset.
    The Lion Knights’ Castle set from Lego.
    Image: Lego
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    Sean Hollister
    And we’re done through Thanksgiving. We’ll be back Monday for day 11 of the trial.

    Judge Donato believes we may be able to finish by next Friday, December 1st — and he’s calling us all in that day. (Usually court here is Monday through Thursday.)

    He’s also telling both sides we don’t need to go through sideloading screens or redefine what MADA is or go through anything we’ve already heard three times before. “We’re going to start losing people,” he says.

    “Everything new and fresh next week, otherwise I may have to ask you to stop.”

    Next week, we’ll hear from both side’s economists. Then Google plans to call six witnesses (including three Google employees) to help bring its counterclaim against Epic (for breach of contract, etc.).

    Both sides are supposed to file their final proposed jury instructions tomorrow — the questions the jury may actually have to decide (pending approval by the judge).

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    Sean Hollister
    Judge Donato really wants all of us out of here on time today.

    “Let’s not talk about a party that none of us were invited to but you two,” Judge Donato chided Epic’s lawyer, who keeps showing Dr. Qian things he said previously.

    Earlier, the judge said we needed to finish the cross-examination of Google’s expert today no matter what. “You’ve got 15 minutes,” he said five minutes ago. “Remember this is an antitrust case.”

    I wonder what he meant by the last part.