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    The CMA’s survey gets a mention.

    Microsoft’s lawyer has now introduced the UK’s Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) analysis of Call of Duty being Xbox exclusive and whether it would financially benefit Microsoft.

    The CMA had originally provisionally concluded that a Microsoft strategy to withhold Call of Duty from PlayStation would be profitable, but Microsoft wasn’t happy with that and publicly criticized the regulator’s math. The CMA then adjusted its financial model and sided with Microsoft, leaving just cloud concerns for it to decide to block the merger.

    Microsoft’s own survey used a wider number of users than the CMA’s own survey which includes a number of people who do not play Call of Duty. Microsoft’s questioning to Dr. Lee here is around whether he saw this survey and considered it in his own analysis. He confirms he didn’t look at the survey and things are getting a little more fraught around the questioning here. Microsoft’s lawyer sternly asks: “Professor Lee, can you answer my question?”

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    To exclusive or not to exclusive, that is the question.

    Microsoft has its own models for Activision games and analysis about keeping games exclusive. “Nobody at Microsoft recommended withholding Activision games,” says Microsoft’s lawyer. Dr. Lee responds:

    “My understanding is that for consoles [Microsoft] recommended not exclusive, but for subscription services they recommended exclusivity.”

    Microsoft’s lawyer is quick to point out Dr. Lee doesn’t have a model for subscription services, but it’s revealing that Activision games are important for Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass subscription but not for pure console sales.

    Earlier, PlayStation chief Jim Ryan said he was concerned about Microsoft using Call of Duty to damage PlayStation, and Sony would obviously be concerned with Call of Duty being bundled into Game Pass to tempt PlayStation players to switch to Xbox and not have to pay $70 for CoD.

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    Breaking down Dr. Lee’s models.

    OK we’re really getting into the weeds of the deal models here from Dr. Lee. This is key, because it’s quantitative analysis of the impact of Microsoft’s deal on competition.

    Dr. Lee has two models: share and foreclosure. Both have separate inputs and different data sets and are designed to predict the impact of withholding Call of Duty from PlayStation.

    Share model

    The share model measures overall North American gen 8 console sales (Xbox One / PS4) and then applies a likely outcome if Call of Duty was removed from PlayStation.

    It predicts that in the console market there would be a share shift of 8.9 percentage points, based on past sales data of Xbox One and PS4 consoles.

    This share model uses only North American market data and no assumed conversion rate. The share model doesn’t predict content library share shift, nor cloud gaming.

    Foreclosure model

    The foreclosure model measures global console sales that includes gen 9 (Xbox Series S / X and PS5) to predict the future. Inputs in the foreclosure model aren’t the same as share model, as it has a conversion rate that assumes 20 percent of Call of Duty players would convert to Xbox.

    In this foreclosure model it predicts a share shift of 5.5 percentage points. The model is designed to work out at what point the benefits would exceed the cost if Microsoft were to withhold Call of Duty from PlayStation. The foreclosure model doesn’t predict content library share shift, nor cloud gaming.

    What does it all mean?!

    This is all a little hard to follow precisely as some numbers are being redacted in this deposition as they’re sensitive and Microsoft’s lawyer is drawing diagrams I can’t see. But Microsoft’s lawyer argues that if Dr. Lee is wrong about the 20 percent conversion rate in the foreclosure model, if it was 15 percent then “it doesn’t give Xbox a net positive for an incentive or reason” to withhold Call of Duty.

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    Questions over Dr. Lee’s report.

    Microsoft’s lawyer, Beth Wilkinson, is asking Dr. Robin Lee about the quantitative models he has used to create his report. Dr. Lee predicts how many PlayStation players would switch to Xbox if Call of Duty was exclusive to Xbox:

    “On average during Call of Duty titles during generation 8, Xbox share would increase by 8.9 percentage points.”

    Such a loss would come from PlayStation losing players, as Call of Duty isn’t available on Nintendo Switch. Wilkinson argues that Dr. Lee’s model takes the data from older consoles and then applies it to new consoles.

    Wilkinson also points out that Dr. Lee doesn’t have models for share shift in multi-game subscriptions or cloud gaming where titles like Call of Duty are taken away fully.

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    They’re arguing about the Nintendo Switch again.

    Microsoft’s lawyer is questioning the FTC’s economic expert, Dr. Robin Lee. He has defined the PlayStation and Xbox as a “high performance” console market that’s separate to the Nintendo Switch.

    This has been an argument between Microsoft and the FTC for all three days of this hearing. Microsoft’s lawyer is bringing up documents from Sony where it describes the Nintendo Switch as a competitor for contracts with Activision.

    Lee is rather evasive in his answers about how he has defined the console market, which you can tell is frustrating Microsoft’s lawyer Beth Wilkinson.

    I find this whole argument tedious. Of course PlayStation and Xbox compete with Nintendo Switch, but not in the same way as they compete with each other.

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    FTC’s economic expert testimony.

    We’re now hearing a deposition from the FTC’s economic expert, Dr. Robin Lee.

    Lee agrees with the FTC’s market definition of Xbox Series S / X and PS5 consoles as “high performance” instead of the broader market including consoles like the Nintendo Switch. Lee ran models on competitive analysis between Xbox Series S / X and PS5.

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    5-minute break, recap time.

    We have a short 5-minute break until the FTC calls its next witness. Here’s the recap of PlayStation chief Jim Ryan’s deposition:

    • Sony is wary of sharing PS6 info with Microsoft
    • Sony’s Activision alarm bells began ringing in August 2022

    • Jim Ryan confirms he told Activision Bobby Kotick he wanted Microsoft’s deal blocked

    • Publishers don’t like Game Pass, Ryan says

    • Xbox beat PS5 sales for three months in 2021

    • Jim Ryan says cloud gaming won’t be a thing until at least 2025

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    PlayStation chief on cloud gaming.

    PlayStation Now had a subscriber base of 3 million users, Ryan says. He predicts that cloud gaming won’t be a meaningful thing until at least 2025:

    “I would say that cloud technology will become a meaningful component of how gamers access games between 2025 and 2035. We’re making significant investments in cloud in anticipation of it becoming a very meaningful way of how gamers access game content.”

    Sony recently started testing cloud streaming for PS5 games, with plans to add this as a feature to its PlayStation Plus Premium subscription.

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    Xbox beat PS5 sales for three months in 2021.

    Jim Ryan confirms that Sony had some shipping constraints in 2021 that means Xbox Series S / X sales beat PS5 for around three months. He says there’s no other time during this latest generation where Xbox sales have materially exceeded PS5.

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    Ryan says publishers don’t like Game Pass.

    Jim Ryan speaking to those Fidelity investors said publishers don’t like Xbox Game Pass:

    “I talked to all publishers they unanimously do not like Game Pass, because its value destructive.”

    He defends the comments saying it’s a “very commonly held view by publishers.”

    Microsoft lawyer: So you had no reason to think Mr. Kotick would put Call of Duty on Game Pass.. if this transaction was not completed?

    Ryan: Correct.

    Ryan also said to investors he was expecting more than 25 million Xbox Game Pass subscribers and that Sony’s 50 million PlayStation Plus subscribers during the investor meeting.